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Morality is like a religion
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RE: Morality is like a religion
(August 19, 2015 at 7:45 am)robvalue Wrote: Well, I'd say what science has to say about what is "good meaning" is irrelevant. If you find something good and meaningful, then that's good enough. There's no need for science to validate it.

Then it would be the metaphorical version of good.  Metaphorical meanings are delusional meanings that have no bearing whatsoever in reality.  For example, if you said that someone who died from a heart attack is still alive, then he/she would really not be alive.  You would only be attributing a metaphorical (false) meaning here.

Also, non scientific factors cannot yield scientific results.  For example, if someone personally judged an object or possession as keeping him/her alive, then if he/she were to lose it, then that would not cause his/her heart to stop beating and kill him/her.  If it somehow did, then it would be because there was some other scientific process going on here that killed him/her.  Not because he/she personally judged that object as keeping him/her alive.

So in that same sense, it is not our personally defined version of incentive through our thoughts alone without our pleasant emotions that make our lives good, worth living, and make us lament/enraged over losses.  There is instead a different scientific (mental) process going on here.  It would be your brain fooling itself into thinking that you are having the incentive.  Also, if there is somehow a version of wanting and liking through our thoughts alone without our pleasant emotions, then that would not be the incentive version.  They would not give us any incentive as I said before.

The very act of our brains fooling themselves does not make our lives good and worth living either without our pleasant emotions.  If you had no pleasant emotions and you said the phrase:

"I am fooling myself into thinking I have the incentive to live.  Therefore, my life is good and worth living."

Then this would be a false statement.  It would be no different than the statement:

"I am fooling myself into thinking the Earth is flat.  Therefore, I am going to fall off the Earth."
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Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 18, 2015 at 11:34 pm
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Shuffle - August 19, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 1:01 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 2:09 pm
RE: Morality is like a religion - by strawdawg - August 30, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 4:58 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 6:23 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 6:31 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 7:31 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 7:43 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 7:45 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 7:49 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 7:52 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 7:57 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 7:59 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 8:04 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 8:06 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 8:07 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Morality is like a religion - by robvalue - August 19, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 19, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Detective L Ryuzaki - August 20, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Morality is like a religion - by Shuffle - August 26, 2015 at 11:16 pm
RE: Morality is like a religion - by JuliaL - August 26, 2015 at 11:52 pm

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