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Dear Resident Theists
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RE: Dear Resident Theists
August 20, 2015 at 10:03 am
(August 20, 2015 at 9:14 am)Napoléon Wrote:
lkingpinl Wrote:The laws of mathematics say that 1+1=2, but the laws have never produced a single dollar, and if the laws of nature or broken down in the singularity, then the naturalistic starting point is also supernatural.

Herein lies your fundamental misunderstanding. Just because something cannot be currently explained != supernatural.

This is essentially, just a "goddidit" argument.

Not at all, I'm not using a "God of the Gaps" argument.  What I'm saying is simply that both a naturalistic explanation of the beginning of the universe and the theological explanation are both supernatural.  I'm stating that Hawking believes that in the singularity the laws of Nature must be broken down.  Meaning there were no laws of nature, the existence of the universe owes it's explanation outside the laws of nature, or by definition, supernatural.
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