RE: No such thing as Atheism!
October 31, 2010 at 3:51 pm
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2010 at 4:22 pm by Welsh cake.)
(October 29, 2010 at 8:55 pm)h-n Wrote: They all know that Allah exists!That's a misrepresentation of atheism in general, agnostically speaking we don't know if any god or gods exists or not, most of us make no such positive claims to knowledge we simply don't believe in the concept for a variety of reasons, mostly it's all down to our rigorous standards of evidence that debunk or refute irrational propositions. Now it's actually up to you, the theist - the person making the claim, to demonstrate Allah's existence. If he's real then you need to provide sufficient evidence of this that will meet your burden of proof and thereby satisfy our standards.
I'm now going to try and...ugh... address the most fallacious of your arguments, while remaining as civil as possible which is difficult to be honest as you're OP is lacking structure, constructive thought-process and coherency; some would say your premises are nothing but a steaming pile of dogmatic pig shit, me personally I feel half of what you typed is nonsensical and consequently cannot be legitimately responded to.
Quote:98:6 (Asad) Verily, those who [despite all evidence] are bent on denying the truth - [be they] from among the followers of earlier revelation or from among those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God - will find themselves in the fire of hell, therein to abide: they are the worst of all creatures.Quoting the Qur'an will not convince us. Circular arguments and testimonies from religious text alone are not sufficient to prove an omnipotent omnipresent beings' existence h-n.
Quote:Allah is the Creator, and still fashions the babies in the wombs to be people.Yahweh also claims to fashion babies in the womb, is any of this drivel biologically correct? No, of course not. Organisms are capable of reproducing without divine intervention.
Quote:2. They say they are clever because they are quoting this and that from this person, when the people they are quoting are not better then the Prophets! Are they going to say that Richard Dawkins is better then Prophet Jesus peace be upon him? Whey are they so quick to follow after people who are nothing in comparison to the Prophets?You're not a prophet either h-n. By your arbitrary appeal to authority no one should even give you one minute's worth of their day.
Quote:-they become scientists to copy off the other Scientists, to be treated with respect and people would think they are clever.Gee, what an analogy, it's like the person who wants to copy other Islamic bat-shit crazy fundamentalists, so he can have virgins in a make-believe place called Heaven, so he becomes one.
Quote:- they will not set foot on Jupiter etc, and they would not be able to leave this galaxy.How absurd. The purpose of the exploration of space with probes, the pioneer missions, and observation of cosmos was intended for us to develop a greater understanding of our solar system, not for man to do the impossible and walk on a gas giant.
Quote:- even in Medicine only evil people would think about organ donation, to think up the idea of cutting someone else up and taking their organs, even Allah said;-Let's hope you don't find yourself needing a kidney or liver transplant and undergoing treatment to save your skin or you may find people calling you a colossal ignorant hypocrite, and rightly so.
When you other Muslims get together to play games like "Allah says" and someone calls "Allah says act like moron" that's an invitation for you to start thinking for yourself and not act like a moron.
Quote:11. They ask why they should be sent to Hell if Allah is so Merciful, for them to be sent to Hell does not change the fact that Allah is Merciful. They have sent themselves to Hell.Contrary to your ridiculous assertion I for one don't choose to go Hell. If Allah's real and I'm sent to Hell, then we can conclude that he's not merciful or moral now is he? Let's see if you can follow this to where the logic leads...
Quote:banning me isn't going to save you from the fires of Hell.Ah but you knew our "fate" and yet still failed to save us from the "path of destruction", therefore you destroy yourself also.
EDIT: apologies for the typo, malapropism strikes again!