(October 31, 2010 at 9:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Ooh, thanks for bringing this back up, Skeptic. I missed G-C's pointless reply.
G-C - let's get something clear. Ehrman is a world class scholar and expert in ancient languages.
You are a guy who believes in a talking snake. The fact that you cannot understand Ehrman's point is not a surprise. My dog does not understand how my cell phone works, either.
The issue remains - in spite of your efforts to derail - that 3 authors place the cleaning of the temple at the END of their story while one author ( we do not know their real names ) puts it at the beginning.
You could walk from Timbuktu to Djakarta and name every fucking village along the way and it would do nothing to refute the point which Ehrman made. Your bible contradicts itself by putting two incompatible stories in and claiming that both are true.
I think I'll begin looking for another passage. You won't like this next one either.
Quote:Ehrman's other books are a great read as well besides Jesus, Interrupted. Lost Christianities is a good read, but more scholarly and dense than Jesus, Interrupted.
Lost Christianities is great. Misquoting Jesus was a bit technical but it got going at the end. Unfortunately, xtians get lost in that whole discussion of how the early copyists fucked up the whole damn thing. They HATE that.
Like I said Min it does not matter where he put the event the important thing is he included the event, John never tried to give a chronological time line, his interest was to tell each event that was important in letting others know who the real Jesus is, why can't you get that through your thick head. Ehrman ignors this fact also, I do not care what kind of scholar he might be when he ignors the truth he becomes an unreliable source. Being intellegent has nothing to do with being honest, his agenda is to deceive and that is obvious when you read his work with an open mind to find the truth. Tell me Min if the copiest did such a poor job why is it that the book of Isaiah is word for word accurate after 1000 years between known copies, this knowledge tends to lean in favor of the copiest.
PS. there are many others who are experts in the ancient languages and they disagree with Ehrman, and they are no more biased than he is.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.