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RE: Dear Resident Theists
August 25, 2015 at 2:34 pm (This post was last modified: August 25, 2015 at 2:39 pm by Ronkonkoma.)
(August 24, 2015 at 3:53 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(August 24, 2015 at 2:11 pm)Ronkonkoma Wrote: Most things happen because of a cause. Science is always looking for a cause. The more answers we get, the more questions come up. To say the big bang had no cause is like giving up on science.

And that might be an option because the big bang is the beginning of space and time, and our scientific method fails when we go beyond space and time. Beyond that, we go into philosophy.


Or we can propose other sci-fi versions of reality like multiple universes. Who knows?
But then if you say god did it then you have to account for a cause to God. If you say god had no cause then why not use occams razor and slice out God entirely and say the universe had no cause?

Ah ok, I get your point now. The cause for God wouldn't have to be accounted for because only things that are limited by time need to have a cause. In other words, by logic the universe probably has a cause because it had a beginning. Because the cause of the universe is beyond space and time, we can very well think of it as ETERNAL. As such, it might very well be the end of our search for a cause. What if we finally found what we were looking for??? In addition, being immaterial and transcending time, that original "cause" can and be omnipresent. That cause can also be omniscient since the immense complexity and MASSIVE logic behind the universe is a reflection of its "cause". But I have to stop there because I'm beginning to sound like a theologian. And I'm not. Yet.
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