(August 25, 2015 at 3:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I wasn't aware that gay people were "different things" relative to any other type of person. Please, continue with your riveting and thoroughly well reasoned arguments. So, because gay people are different than..idk.....what, straight people, regular people, standard people, equality isn't a given? Fascinating. Tell me, as you elaborate, do you happen to have red hair or blonde hair, answer carefully...your equality is on the line, after all. You feel comfortable excluding the one group over the other, on this or that grounds, also fascinating. Tell me, what do you exclude your own group from..whatever that group is?
Well as a native american I am a protected class which happens to have black hair. Up until about 50 years ago my people were treated as property of the government of the united states and were not permitted to work or live outside of the reservation or military bases. We have not been treated equally historically and are not treated equally to this day (reservations do not have to obey state laws, but are bound by federal laws. Reservations are not permitted to engage in international trader or have international boarders. Reservations are not permitted to establish exclusive trade deals among one another, to educated their own children, etcetera). Also, unlike some groups we were actually slaughtered, infected, enslaved, imprisoned, and forced into effectual internment camps (reservations), and given enrollment numbers were the majority of us remain to this day. So I am a little familiar with preferential and discriminatory treatment.
Needless to say when I hear arguments of false equivalency I recognize them to be exactly that...FALSE!
Now in regards to your questions about false equivalency I am indeed fine with excluding groups based on particular qualities. The infantile should not be treated as the senile; the virtuous should not be treated the same as the vicious; the disabled should not be treated as the abled. To do endeavor to do so denigrates the superior and denies the inferior; when we should encourage the former and discourage the latter.
It is at this point where discussion then begins in order to determine the qualities of various groups and the civic duties and privileges they should be allowed to exercise.