RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
August 27, 2015 at 7:28 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2015 at 7:31 am by comet.)
People like Neil Degrasse Tyson not only understand the data itself he understands how to apply the data to the world around him. We, well me, I am not as smart as Neal, understand the data suggests that the claim "nothing or no higher anything and I don't care what you all say." is just less valid than claiming "something is going on far more than we understand at this point. But "nothing", "no nothing", or "more complex anything" does not match any observations ."
How we feel about this is another matter. no pun intended.
There are both logical and emotional conclusions about god. "dark matter" doesn't really have the "charged emotions" component . But if you change "religions name" to "dark matter' it would. But the claims about "god" and the claims about "dark matter" on a logical level are very similar. Something causes the light to bend like that. And We are part of a more complex system and Neil understands the observations forcing him away from atheism that stands under the flag of anti-religion.
Atheism has taken on different forms since the start of the internet. If we feel "we are sick of them pushing their myths on us" that is a different conversation and it is not only valid, it should be discussed. If one feels that "it doesn't matter if it is something" if we don't know anything about it" have a valid point also. Again, that is another topic. If a person's emotional needs force them towards "something" meaning a finger pointing, lightning bolt tossing, world ending Omni dude. That is on them and they are not being honest. That is exactly like saying dark matter must be a bowl of spaghetti that likes eating people. Although the is no direct evidence, it doesn't mean we have to be stupid. DeGrasse understands that it's a waste of time fighting manic/depressants or abuse people using logic. He is just atheist by definition with no other baggage.
to be continued ...
How we feel about this is another matter. no pun intended.
There are both logical and emotional conclusions about god. "dark matter" doesn't really have the "charged emotions" component . But if you change "religions name" to "dark matter' it would. But the claims about "god" and the claims about "dark matter" on a logical level are very similar. Something causes the light to bend like that. And We are part of a more complex system and Neil understands the observations forcing him away from atheism that stands under the flag of anti-religion.
Atheism has taken on different forms since the start of the internet. If we feel "we are sick of them pushing their myths on us" that is a different conversation and it is not only valid, it should be discussed. If one feels that "it doesn't matter if it is something" if we don't know anything about it" have a valid point also. Again, that is another topic. If a person's emotional needs force them towards "something" meaning a finger pointing, lightning bolt tossing, world ending Omni dude. That is on them and they are not being honest. That is exactly like saying dark matter must be a bowl of spaghetti that likes eating people. Although the is no direct evidence, it doesn't mean we have to be stupid. DeGrasse understands that it's a waste of time fighting manic/depressants or abuse people using logic. He is just atheist by definition with no other baggage.
to be continued ...
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity