(August 28, 2015 at 10:04 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 28, 2015 at 9:20 am)Nestor Wrote: Yeah, like those. How about being nice because you've thought about good reasons to be nice? Because you value the present life more than one that exists in your imagination?
How is anti-theist a blanket statement? It simply means I'm against theism for its effects that I see as harmful - including the doing of good from ignorant motivations.
I think a lot of folks here see it the wrong way. Being "religiously motivated" to do good deeds is not necessarily about doing them for the sole purpose of being "rewarded" in Heaven or whatever. That would be simplistic and kind of counter productive anyway, since it's nothing but self serving and the whole point is selflessness and love.
Growing up Catholic, I learned about the virtues of charity, generosity, forgiveness, honesty, etc etc, and I learned about having respect for and seeing the dignity in all people. Because all people (and all creation, really) are made by God and thus have inherent dignity and worth, no matter how small or insignificant they may appear. Those are the values that I was taught in my faith based upbringing, just like everyone (religious or not) grows up being taught certain values.
I don't think I'd appreciate it all too much if one of my friends accused me of doing good things only because I'm trying to go to Heaven.
In all fairness, it's hardly atheists' fault for inclining to that view of religious motivations. A lot of religous people present themselves as subscribing to that self-serving reward/punishment system of morality through their behavior. The supposed accompanying baggage of loving thy neighbor, coming to peace and understanding with God, spiritual growth and what not just end up being a pantomime.
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