Oh boy. Your post has so many problems it would take a day to dissect it all. Others are trying... However, I will pick up on the following points.
Ignorance is something to be hidden not flaunted. You obviously have no concept of what peer review means and its implications. Tiberius made a good example in the other thread and I will mimic him here.
Prove me wrong!
Jesus fucking christ. Again displaying your complete ignorance of the scientific process. That is right, we don't know for sure and the scientists disagree and argue and publish papers and call each other names. This is the scientific process.
What the scientific process does is comes up with hypothesis until such a time (if ever) one of them can be proven or at least be reasonably certain of being more or less accurate, then it gets upgraded to being a theory (and I hope you understand the correct meaning of the word theory.
What the scientific process does not do is insert "God" as the answer to things we do not understand. This is the route to stagnation as then you can explain everything and no need for further inquiry. It also does not base scientific theories on things written centuries/millennia (eg: the bible) ago unless they are verifiable. Hypotheses, sure, why not? But not things we accept as fact. For example, while we have no proof for this, you could hypothesize that people did indeed live longer a few thousand years ago because it says so in the bible. It won't be accepted as scientific fact though until it can be corroborated with some evidence.
Let me expound on scientific process vs theistic acceptance further. You seem to like using the internet and your computer to talk on forums. Now, for computers to work one of the requirements is power, specifically electricity. Now, let us go back in time a couple of centuries to when people started experimenting with controlling electricity. What would have happened if everyone was really theistic.
Theist 1: "Where does lightening come from?"
Theist 2: "God"
Theist 1: "Can we control it? Generate it? Could be useful!"
Theist 2: "No, only God has the right and power to do this. To try and control it would be heretical and a sin"
Theist 1: "Oh, bugger, so we will never have Internet porn then?"
Theist 2: "No. Now stop talking and help me push my cart. I'm sure there must be a better design for wheels than a square"
Finally...
And yes, regarding your not providing of a list, well excuse me, but if you are going to claim it is possible that Noah built an ark big enough (to the exact specifications) and claim there are only a certain number of "kinds" that needed to be on the ark, then surely you must know what each of these "kinds" are. Otherwise how can you be so certain about it? I read through several of those apologetics articles on Noah and they are all making some sort of assumptions (different assumptions as well... i thought you all had access to the same sources and the same ultimate truth).
I suspect the real reason why there is no list is because if someone did produce a fixed list then within about 1 second of it being posted biologists would already spot so many holes in the list of "kinds" that it would be very embarrassing for the creationists.
(November 3, 2010 at 6:41 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Getting published in a journal that is reviewed by a bunch of like minded reviewers really is not all that impressive. You should try and get published in one where not everyone is pulling for your side sometime.
Ignorance is something to be hidden not flaunted. You obviously have no concept of what peer review means and its implications. Tiberius made a good example in the other thread and I will mimic him here.
Quote:The Earth was created last Thursday by GodProve me wrong! Its not peer reviewed but don't worry about that eh? What? You remember last Thursday? Nah, that's just God fucking with you man. He created you (and everything else) last Thursday, memories of an earlier life, everything.
Prove me wrong!
(November 3, 2010 at 6:41 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Don't pretned for a second that you have any idea how the dinosaurs went extinct. Nobody on your side of the aisle can even remotely agree on that issue. It's a pretty simple question to answer on my side of the aisle. There was a great bottleneck at the flood. Dinosaurs were very rare after the flood due to a scarcity of their primary food.
Jesus fucking christ. Again displaying your complete ignorance of the scientific process. That is right, we don't know for sure and the scientists disagree and argue and publish papers and call each other names. This is the scientific process.
What the scientific process does is comes up with hypothesis until such a time (if ever) one of them can be proven or at least be reasonably certain of being more or less accurate, then it gets upgraded to being a theory (and I hope you understand the correct meaning of the word theory.
What the scientific process does not do is insert "God" as the answer to things we do not understand. This is the route to stagnation as then you can explain everything and no need for further inquiry. It also does not base scientific theories on things written centuries/millennia (eg: the bible) ago unless they are verifiable. Hypotheses, sure, why not? But not things we accept as fact. For example, while we have no proof for this, you could hypothesize that people did indeed live longer a few thousand years ago because it says so in the bible. It won't be accepted as scientific fact though until it can be corroborated with some evidence.
Let me expound on scientific process vs theistic acceptance further. You seem to like using the internet and your computer to talk on forums. Now, for computers to work one of the requirements is power, specifically electricity. Now, let us go back in time a couple of centuries to when people started experimenting with controlling electricity. What would have happened if everyone was really theistic.
Theist 1: "Where does lightening come from?"
Theist 2: "God"
Theist 1: "Can we control it? Generate it? Could be useful!"
Theist 2: "No, only God has the right and power to do this. To try and control it would be heretical and a sin"
Theist 1: "Oh, bugger, so we will never have Internet porn then?"
Theist 2: "No. Now stop talking and help me push my cart. I'm sure there must be a better design for wheels than a square"
Finally...
And yes, regarding your not providing of a list, well excuse me, but if you are going to claim it is possible that Noah built an ark big enough (to the exact specifications) and claim there are only a certain number of "kinds" that needed to be on the ark, then surely you must know what each of these "kinds" are. Otherwise how can you be so certain about it? I read through several of those apologetics articles on Noah and they are all making some sort of assumptions (different assumptions as well... i thought you all had access to the same sources and the same ultimate truth).
I suspect the real reason why there is no list is because if someone did produce a fixed list then within about 1 second of it being posted biologists would already spot so many holes in the list of "kinds" that it would be very embarrassing for the creationists.
A finite number of monkeys with a finite number of typewriters and a finite amount of time could eventually reproduce 4chan.