(August 31, 2015 at 3:18 pm)abaris Wrote:(August 31, 2015 at 2:36 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: To my best recollection, none of his points struck me as good when he made them.
What points did he make? He copy pasted what others said and that was about all.
Ah, but the gotcha was whether the copy pasted contained any good points. Cause you know, good points are good points.
What he missed, and I hope he's listening here, points widely published yet not convincing are probably not good points. Just saying.
Randy, the thing is this, your arguments are all arguments that make believers feel better about believing, but they aren't proof. Even you admitted that they aren't scientific proof. Believing in god appears to require the will the believe in god. Well, sorry, if proof isn't obvious, requiring not exertion beyond weighing the evidence (even if the evidence is counter intuitive) then there's no evidence.
I probably will go on being respectful and nice when you come back. I'm built that way. But you still lack any real demonstrable evidence.
I don't believe in anything I must want to believe in in order to believe in. It saves me from a lot of isms, a lot of pseudo science, and so far, all religion.
Every so often you've suggested I'm a cut above this forum. That's not so. I'm politer to you, no more. Don't mistake that for agreement. The facts however, remain the facts. And they aren't with you. There is no evidence of god that brings him anywhere even close to a 50/50 proposition. God remains many hundreds if not thousands to one.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.