Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy

[Redbeard The Pink]

You can disagree all you want, it's not "my view". It doesn't matter what the reason is, you cannot blame patients for not achieving a healthcare goal. Expecting patients to conform automatically is a form of assimilation.

I've been avoiding squabbling with you because I'm here to recreationally argue with theists and not brain-dead atheists, but seriously, go fuck yourself. Perhaps a victim can't be blamed for what's done to them, but they're still responsible for ALL the actions they take themselves, like for instance the action of abusing their children and putting others at risk by withholding proper medical care from their own kids. You're making a blanket statement that doctors/the medical industry are always responsible when a patient makes a fucked up decision, and seriously, you need to fuck off with that shit. It just isn't true.


My first wife and I had a horrible experience at the doctor one time over a form she needed signed for work. It was a total professional meltdown, complete with the staff violating Hippa right in the (very full) lobby concerning my ex's psychiatric history. Total clusterfuck. You know what we did? We got her a different fucking doctor. We could have forsaken medical care for ourselves and our (luckily non-existent) children forever, but we got a different doctor at a different practice. It wasn't even hard.


What you're asking me to do is look at situations where somebody is wronged by a doctor, then turns around and wrongs their own children and community afterward, and you want me to blame the doctor and not the patient for their irresponsible reaction to the situation. Fuck off. Doctors are not responsible for patients' stupid decisions.


Besides, as somebody already stated, irrational fear of vaccines is actually on the rise because of anti-vaxxer rhetoric being so prominent and so much of the public lacking critical thinking skills. What happens to your argument in communities where the number of people vaccinated dips below the acceptable norm (like it already has in some places)? Are the doctors responsible for that, too? Are they responsible for all the prominent humans who are trusted by their fans and use that position to preach a medically irresponsible message about vaccines? Where does the responsibility of medicine end and the responsibility of the public begin?