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Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
(September 10, 2015 at 11:28 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(September 10, 2015 at 11:14 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Vic, neither me nor Chad is saying we're offended by statues of other religions. It's not like I get offended when I see something Jewish or Hindu or whatever. I honestly don't really care. This is a clear strawman.

Cath, he's being sarcastic. We understand that you're only offended by the (very narrow view, I think) that one statue's symbology is offensive because it "shows aggression toward" the other statue, somehow, or the adherents who placed it there... which is, of course, the whole reason it was placed there by the Satanists, in order to trigger a defensive reaction from the majority-group that normally feels so arrogant in its domination of this culture that few other methods would reach them.

What we're trying to get you to understand is the concept of Privilege. You have the luxury of choosing whether or not to be offended by other religious displays because yours is still the dominant element of the culture, and so other religious minorities may be effectively ignored.

When we try to explain it to you, you just shrug and say "well it doesn't bother me", thus missing our point completely, and marginalizing the perspective of the minority groups, including us. So listen well: it's not about whether it's equally okay for Hindus to get together and put up a statue.

Placing an icon of the dominant faith on a courthouse or other public property/building that all the people who live in this multi-faith (pluralistic), secular society must share, tells everyone not of that dominant faith that they are second-class citizens, that their oaths and testimonies in the courtroom mean just a little bit less, that they are under the overarching thumb of the dominant class. This is made even worse by the Christian history of doing just that in western culture, to the point that we refer to the breaking of that total dominance as "The Rebirth" (re-naissance) and "The Enlightenment".

Those monuments to the Ten Commandments, as I have shown with words in a previous post, show a defiance of the Bill of Rights and the entire Age of Reason that terrifies us, we who know history and have suffered the social barbs of rejecting the dominant faith of this nation. If you really thought it through, it would scare you, too, if you are a person of good conscience who truly cares about your fellow Americans, your fellow human beings.

Ok. I agree that no particular group of people should get any privilege over another. It should be either any religious symbol allowed, or none. I guess I just can't relate to such a thing making me feel like a second class citizen, because as long as the laws were not affected, I personally wouldn't feel that way if there was another religious sign instead of the 10 commandments. I keep stressing about "as long as this doesn't affect the laws".... which would include regarding anyone else like second class citizen. If that happened, I would care. Otherwise, I don't really care what statue is on what building. If I moved to a different country where the vast majority of the population was Buddhist, for example, and they had a Buddha by the front door of a court house, I really just don't see myself caring so long as I am treated like everyone else and so long as the laws are fair and objective for everyone. So I'm sorry, but I just can't relate to the outrage about this because I don't see myself feeling the same way at all. I don't know what else to tell you.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue. - by Catholic_Lady - September 10, 2015 at 11:45 am

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