RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 12:13 pm
(September 10, 2015 at 11:45 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok. I agree that no particular group of people should get any privilege over another. It should be either any religious symbol allowed, or none. I guess I just can't relate to such a thing making me feel like a second class citizen, because as long as the laws were not affected, I personally wouldn't feel that way if there was another religious sign instead of the 10 commandments. I keep stressing about "as long as this doesn't affect the laws".... which would include regarding anyone else like second class citizen. If that happened, I would care. Otherwise, I don't really care what statue is on what building. If I moved to a different country where the vast majority of the population was Buddhist, for example, and they had a Buddha by the front door of a court house, I really just don't see myself caring so long as I am treated like everyone else and so long as the laws are fair and objective for everyone. So I'm sorry, but I just can't relate to the outrage about this because I don't see myself feeling the same way at all. I don't know what else to tell you.
This is what the guy who put up the Ten Commandments monument had to say about being forced to take it down:
"You know, when I look back, I was proud to uphold the law, the Constitution of the United States and the First Amendment," Moore said, "which states basically we must acknowledge God to have a moral basis for our society and to retain that freedom of conscience which every person in this state and in this country recognizes is very important." (Bold emphasis mine.)
He says a lot of stuff that should disturb you, and which shows the lie of the "well all religions are okay, we just want to show a symbol of our faith, by putting up the Ten Commandments monument, nothing more" which is how so many defend the action. Here's another of his quotes, an explanation for the reason he put it up:
"Since September 11, we have been at war. I submit to you there is another war raging a war between good and evil, between right and wrong. For 40 years we have wandered like the children of Israel. In homes and schools across our land, its time for Christians to take a stand. This is not a nation established on the principles of Buddha or Hinduism. Our faith is not Islam. What we follow is not the Koran but the Bible. This is a Christian nation." (Again, bold emphasis = mine.)
"We", you see. The definition of "we" is very important, here in the USA. You'll note he doesn't even bother to mention atheists in his analysis of who "we" are, here in the USA, so little regard does he hold for those who are irreligious, though he did sort of imply that we exist when he said:
"Many judges and government officials deny any higher law and forbid the teaching to our children that they are created in the image of an Almighty God, while they purport that it is government, and not God, who gave us our rights. ...in order to establish justice we must invoke the favor and guidance of Almighty God."
Oh, and you should be aware that he doesn't really think very highly of Catholics, either, since the version of the 10C he put up is the one that was used in the South to oppress Catholics (most of my family, being Cajun, are Catholic, so I'm aware of this history) by forcing the Protestant version upon them, and is the reason many Catholic schools in the South were chartered and funded by the Holy See.
So I'll leave you with some of his recent thoughts (video)
"Satan is out to destroy everything that God has created. This is not just about religion, this is about law; the organic law of our country." [Satan is] "convincing many in our land that they can form a marriage between the same gender. My, how God must be sad about this. He has a controversy with the inhabitants of this land, and until we reject those evils, we shall suffer accordingly. We wonder why we’re suffering economically, why we’re suffering economically, why we’re suffering the moral decay, and now they want to take away that natural union between a man and woman that’s called family."
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
