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Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
(September 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: To get back to the point of the whole thing, the 10 Commandments don't represent this nation's laws.  They're not the foundation of our laws or Constitution, and anyone who says otherwise failed US history in school.  Most Commandments aren't applicable to actual legislation or jurisprudence (idols, the sabbath, coveting (outside of actual theft), cheating, honoring one's parents, etc.), and the rest are not unique to the Commandments at all.  The proposed display - again, incorrectly - implies that the Commandments were the foundation upon which that state's laws were conceived.  And that is troublesome.  The message is "These laws are Christian laws.  Not Muslim laws, Hindu laws, Wiccan laws, Voodoo laws, Satanic laws, etc.  But Christian laws."

By approving the display of one particular brand of religion's symbolism, they've painted themselves into a corner.  Either the visual implication - that this is the Christian god's country - is true, which is incredibly exclusionary and unconstitutional to boot, or that all religions have value when it comes to creating, implementing, and judging based on laws, and we're not picky about where our inspiration comes from.

That's why the best, and only, solution is to not have any such display.

[My bolding throughout this post]

From HuffPost
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sata...84e2765fd5
Quote:While the Ten Commandments monument is, in the words of Arkansas lawmakers, about honoring the Old Testament text as the "moral foundation of the law," The Satanic Temple said it wants to build a memorial to the "various historical witch hunts," the "persecuted free-thinkers" and the "'heretics' who helped inform American secular jurisprudence."

An inscription on the Baphomet statue would read, "Be it known to all that this statue commemorates the history of law in the United States of America. From the deplorable Satanic Witch Hunts, the cherished doctrines of due process, presumption of innocence and the protection of minorities from the tyranny of mob rule became part of the established foundation of American jurisprudence."

According to the AK lawmakers, the 10 Commandments monument is meant to make a direct link between the Christianity and the secular laws of the United States, stating in no uncertain terms that US law is "Christian Law."

Further:

Quote:In July, Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson ® spoke out against the wave of monument petitions, saying he doesn't "want just every group putting a statue on the Capitol grounds." He suggested that the legislative debate over the Ten Commandments monument meant that it was a more serious undertaking.

"We want it to be exclusive; we want it to be reasoned," said Hutchinson. "We want it to be reflective."

Tough noogies, Hutchinson; you opened the door to "just everyone" erecting monuments when you allowed anyone to erect a monument.


(September 10, 2015 at 9:52 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(September 10, 2015 at 9:10 am)Iroscato Wrote: ALL abortion? No matter the circumstances? CL, you know I love you, but you say some fucking worrying stuff sometimes...

Like I said in a different post, once you acknowledge/accept the fact that an unborn baby is no less human than any of us, there is no justifying killing him/her, just as there is no justifying killing any other innocent person.

Even if you acknowledge/accept that an unborn baby is no less human than any born person, that still does not give them the right to impose themselves on someone else's body without that person's consent.

http://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil1...homson.htm



But, alas, let's not derail this thread into one about abortion... Angel
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue. - by Clueless Morgan - September 10, 2015 at 12:33 pm

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