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Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy
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RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy
(September 11, 2015 at 7:04 am)Aractus Wrote: Honestly Redbeard I've been the only one to post anything scholarly in this thread. Here's another:

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As to my previous post YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MADE THE CLAIM THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST GO AND ACCESS ANOTHER SERVICE. So either back it up or retract it. Healthcare services are public services for everyone. You can't come back and say "you can't make reference to minorities" that isn't a valid response.

If you're really going to play that card then read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights from which I quote:

Article 21.
   (2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.


The minorities you're talking about aren't the people we're describing as "Anti-Vaxxers." Those people fail to access healthcare for completely different reasons that need to be addressed in completely different ways. Their fear and non-knowledge is primarily a matter of cultural limitation. Suggesting that those people are dumb or lazy for not getting health care would indeed be victim blaming, and the problems that prevent those people from getting care absolutely need to be addressed.


Those are not Anti-Vaxxers. Anti-Vaxxers are people who have access to vaccines and proper medical information but willfully choose not to get vaccines (for themselves and/or their children) because of irrational fears and/or bad ideas. Unlike the minorities you describe, their mistrust is less often caused by cultural norms or lack of options than by willful ignorance and lack of critical thinking skills coupled with incidental exposure to damaging information. Those people should be educated (as politely as possible), the ones that won't be educated should be shamed, and the ones that are beyond shame should should not be allowed to participate in consensual society since they refuse to follow its rules. That's how bad ideas are generally handled. Lots of people get the soft approach and get the picture, and some people aren't so lucky or rational. Such is life.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by SmootherPebble - September 5, 2015 at 12:03 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Cato - September 5, 2015 at 1:52 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 7, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 7, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Cato - September 8, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Ravenshire - September 5, 2015 at 1:53 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mister Agenda - September 8, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Ravenshire - September 9, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by The Valkyrie - September 11, 2015 at 12:05 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 5, 2015 at 2:07 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by MTL - September 8, 2015 at 12:16 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 8, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 2:39 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Longhorn - September 5, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by MTL - September 26, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Pyrrho - September 26, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by downbeatplumb - September 5, 2015 at 4:26 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by AFTT47 - September 5, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Longhorn - September 5, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 5, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Chad32 - September 5, 2015 at 9:38 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by robvalue - September 5, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by dyresand - September 5, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aoi Magi - September 5, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mister Agenda - September 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Cecelia - September 5, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mister Agenda - September 8, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Lemonvariable72 - September 5, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by thehedglin - September 5, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Pyrrho - September 5, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by thehedglin - September 5, 2015 at 8:58 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by The Valkyrie - September 5, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by IATIA - September 5, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 5, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 5, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Lemonvariable72 - September 6, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Justtristo - September 6, 2015 at 7:44 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by bennyboy - September 7, 2015 at 2:12 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by TheRocketSurgeon - September 7, 2015 at 10:55 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aroura - September 7, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 7, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aroura - September 8, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 9, 2015 at 3:57 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aroura - September 9, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 9, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aroura - September 9, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 10, 2015 at 12:36 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 7, 2015 at 8:29 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 7, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 7, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 7, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 8, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 7, 2015 at 11:06 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 8, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 8, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 9, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 9, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 11, 2015 at 3:55 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 11, 2015 at 6:52 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 9, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 9, 2015 at 7:35 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 10, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 10, 2015 at 11:54 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 8, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by downbeatplumb - September 8, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 8, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Lemonvariable72 - September 9, 2015 at 9:35 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 9, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Lemonvariable72 - September 10, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 9, 2015 at 9:40 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aroura - September 9, 2015 at 7:59 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 10, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 11, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 11, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 11, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 12, 2015 at 10:01 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by CapnAwesome - September 10, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 11, 2015 at 7:04 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 11, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 11, 2015 at 9:28 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Redbeard The Pink - September 11, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Bob Kelso - September 11, 2015 at 11:57 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Cato - September 12, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 12, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 12, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 13, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2015 at 2:49 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - September 13, 2015 at 4:48 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aroura - September 13, 2015 at 3:01 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Cato - September 13, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Bob Kelso - September 13, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Spooky - September 15, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 26, 2015 at 2:20 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - September 27, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - September 27, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Cecelia - October 1, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by ApeNotKillApe - October 1, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - October 1, 2015 at 6:48 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by TaraJo - October 5, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 5, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by John V - October 16, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 16, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - October 16, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by John V - October 17, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - October 17, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by John V - October 16, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 16, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by John V - October 17, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by brewer - October 17, 2015 at 12:50 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by John V - October 19, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Edwardo Piet - October 17, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - October 18, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 18, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - October 18, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 18, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - October 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 19, 2015 at 8:03 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - October 20, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Thumpalumpacus - October 21, 2015 at 2:20 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - October 21, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Edwardo Piet - October 18, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Mermaid - October 18, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by The Grand Nudger - October 18, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Aractus - October 18, 2015 at 5:28 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Jaxxie1181 - October 20, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by The Valkyrie - October 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Silver - October 21, 2015 at 2:24 am
RE: Anti-Vaxxer Sympathy - by Jaxxie1181 - October 21, 2015 at 3:02 pm

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