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What Are Bosons?
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RE: What Are Bosons?
(September 11, 2015 at 6:42 pm)Alex K Wrote: Yes it does. But I can't give you a definite answer. Not because the question is bad, but because I am not sure which of the things I think I know about particles are artifacts of the formalism used to analyze the theory, artifacts of the theory we use to describe nature, and which things are really truths independent of how one writes down and treats the theory. Furthermore, my understanding of theory has its limitations. Last but not least, "a particle" in common usage is an idealized thing which does not reflect the intricasies of the theory.

With those caveats: In the Standard Model, the way it is usually written down, elementary particles are excitations of fields. They carry theoretical labels  which distinuish them (which field it is, and in what state precisely). Energy is a secondary property which can be assigned to field configurations, among others such as momentum, charge, etc., and isolated particles correspond to field configurations with certain discrete energy quantities corresponding to their mass via mc^2. In this picture, elem. particles are not containers of energy, but neither would one say they are Energy itself.
One might hoewever be able to simply adopt the speech convention that everything is Energy, and that this Energy can be stored in different fields, or, equivalenty, be assigned different labels.

But I don't feel comfortable giving Energy such a fundamental role.


When are you physicists going to admit it is all a word salad done for the sake of keeping the grant money coming?

See also:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-35974-po...pid1047096

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 11, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by vorlon13 - September 11, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Whateverist - September 11, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by SteelCurtain - September 11, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 12:03 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Jackalope - September 11, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 11, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 11, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Anomalocaris - September 11, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Minimalist - September 11, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Anomalocaris - September 11, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 11, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Cyberman - September 13, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Anomalocaris - September 11, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by The Valkyrie - September 11, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 11, 2015 at 6:17 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 11, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Pyrrho - September 11, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 12, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by vorlon13 - September 11, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 11, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by vorlon13 - September 11, 2015 at 7:44 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by brewer - September 11, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 11, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by ignoramus - September 11, 2015 at 8:16 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 12, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Exian - September 11, 2015 at 9:29 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Jenny A - September 11, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by dyresand - September 12, 2015 at 12:47 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 12, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by IATIA - September 12, 2015 at 1:14 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by ignoramus - September 12, 2015 at 2:32 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by ignoramus - September 12, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Longhorn - September 12, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 12, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by ignoramus - September 12, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 12, 2015 at 7:02 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by brewer - September 12, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 12, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 12, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by LastPoet - September 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 12, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Angrboda - September 12, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 12, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 13, 2015 at 2:00 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 13, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Alex K - September 13, 2015 at 2:37 am
RE: What Are Bosons? - by Rhondazvous - September 13, 2015 at 11:52 am

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