(September 11, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(September 11, 2015 at 9:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And I bet the altar boys still talk about it!
What? His name was Georges Lemaître. And he was not a child molester.
They're pulling your chain, Cath! Get it? "big bang?"
If you read the article, Krauss is pretty clear why he says what he says, and it's not that he thinks it should be required in the dictatorial sense of the term, like some kind of exclusive club. It's that when you do science, it's methodological naturalism, so God isn't required at any point in the work. Thus, he says, it's a pointless thing, even for those scientists who still hold beliefs in the supernatural outside of the realm of science. Despite all the "bomb-throwing", it's actually a fairly unremarkable article, and I think you would be less offended by the jokes here if you read it to get full context.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
