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hey i am josh(gaytheist)
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RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist)
(November 11, 2010 at 8:33 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(November 11, 2010 at 7:33 am)joshgold17 Wrote: so in 1960s america when white people got treated alot better had more rights and black people got treated worse and had less rights,would you say it would be ok if white people have a white pride march even though they were the majority and had more rights.
I don't see how that is relevant. We don't live in 1960s America. It's not ok if some people have rights and other don't if that's what you mean.

Quote:i am not saying it is like 1960s for gays today but in america gays in most states can not get married,can not serve openly in the military(althouh i am not sure if its changed) can get fired for being gay in most states,gay teens are 4 times more likley to commit suicide,and gays are much more likley to be victim of hate crimes of straight people than staright people being the victim of hate crimes of gay people.
All of which is completely irrelevant when talking about the issue at hand...which is whether straight people should be able to have "straight pride" marches. I say they should if they want to (whether they'd want to is a separate issue), because I believe that everyone should have equal rights. If we allow gay people to celebrate their sexuality, and not allow straight people to celebrate theirs, we are not fulfilling a commitment to equal rights.

so why do you think there were and still are gay pride marches other than to celebrate sexuality.

Skipper Wrote:Unless the straight pride march in some way was spreading hate or giving itself a sense of superiority I see no reason why in theory one would be unacceptable?

I also support the principles behind gay pride marches and attend one of the biggest in the country every year in Brighton, where I'm from.

I can understand why a straight pride march may attract negative connotations, however that's just due to a peculiar sense of guilt society has created for its majorities (particularly, as mentioned, under Nu Labour. Possibly as a direct result of it's policies on equality and multiculturalism that created division and resentment where there was none to begin with) . In theory a straight pride march need be nothing but a celebration.

right yes because we should go back to the 1970s when the majority whites could say racist things,not hire blacks and asians for jobs,where the NF got quite a few votes,where interacial dating was taboo.

And what do you mean majorities feel guilty. since when do straight people feel guilty about being straight or white people feel guilty about being white?
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hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 10, 2010 at 12:40 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by Darwinian - November 10, 2010 at 1:32 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by Tiberius - November 10, 2010 at 1:36 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by Darwinian - November 10, 2010 at 1:41 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by Tiberius - November 10, 2010 at 1:56 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by Darwinian - November 10, 2010 at 2:01 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by Loki_999 - November 10, 2010 at 2:14 pm
RE: hey i am josh - by chasm - November 10, 2010 at 4:25 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Jonah - November 10, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Dotard - November 10, 2010 at 5:12 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 10, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by padraic - November 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 10, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 10, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 10, 2010 at 6:53 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Rhizomorph13 - November 10, 2010 at 6:54 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 10, 2010 at 6:56 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 10, 2010 at 7:02 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 10, 2010 at 7:17 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 10, 2010 at 7:41 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 10, 2010 at 9:55 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Rhizomorph13 - November 10, 2010 at 7:21 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 10, 2010 at 7:23 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by padraic - November 10, 2010 at 11:20 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Shell B - November 10, 2010 at 7:45 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 10, 2010 at 7:48 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Shell B - November 10, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by ib.me.ub - November 10, 2010 at 9:24 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by God - November 10, 2010 at 10:03 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 11, 2010 at 6:35 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 11, 2010 at 6:55 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 11, 2010 at 7:04 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 11, 2010 at 7:04 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 11, 2010 at 7:16 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 11, 2010 at 7:22 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 11, 2010 at 7:33 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Dotard - November 11, 2010 at 8:17 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 11, 2010 at 8:33 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 11, 2010 at 8:54 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 11, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Skipper - November 11, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 11, 2010 at 12:36 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 11, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 11, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by A Theist - November 13, 2010 at 11:20 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 12, 2010 at 7:58 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 16, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Skipper - November 17, 2010 at 9:17 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 10:50 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Dotard - November 17, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 17, 2010 at 1:39 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by joshgold17 - November 17, 2010 at 9:47 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Rhizomorph13 - November 18, 2010 at 12:01 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Loki_999 - November 18, 2010 at 4:49 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Dotard - November 18, 2010 at 9:43 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by The Omnissiunt One - November 19, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Rhizomorph13 - November 10, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Shell B - November 10, 2010 at 10:52 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Rhizomorph13 - November 10, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Shell B - November 10, 2010 at 11:25 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 10, 2010 at 11:36 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by padraic - November 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 11, 2010 at 3:50 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by padraic - November 12, 2010 at 4:01 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 12, 2010 at 5:08 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Loki_999 - November 11, 2010 at 2:56 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by ib.me.ub - November 11, 2010 at 7:37 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Skipper - November 11, 2010 at 8:29 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by downbeatplumb - November 11, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 11, 2010 at 2:54 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by downbeatplumb - November 11, 2010 at 3:22 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 11, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 11, 2010 at 3:13 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 11, 2010 at 3:20 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Autumnlicious - November 12, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by lrh9 - November 13, 2010 at 4:30 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Cerrone - November 15, 2010 at 1:32 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by thesummerqueen - November 18, 2010 at 11:15 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by MehGuy - November 19, 2010 at 2:14 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Dotard - November 20, 2010 at 8:59 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Tiberius - November 20, 2010 at 11:25 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Rhizomorph13 - November 21, 2010 at 12:19 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by The Omnissiunt One - November 21, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by Dotard - November 22, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: hey i am josh(gaytheist) - by tavarish - December 15, 2010 at 5:41 am

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