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When do the ends justify the means?
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RE: When do the ends justify the means?
The CIA torture reports seem to indicate that it didn't really work. The instances where you know absolutely that someone knows something worth torturing them for, and that people will die if you don't get the info, is mostly seen in movies. In Guantanamo, it turns out that many people were innocent, and that almost no information they got was worth what they did.

It's like, do you really think there were witches in Salem? People making pacts with Satan, and performing magic? One red flag is that one way to tell if a woman is a witch is if she floats when you put her in water. So either she'll drown an innocent woman, or keep herself from drowning long enough for the town to kill her anyway.

Torture is a violation of Human rights. There's even an amendment in the constitution covering cruel and unusual punishment. It's against the Geneva Convention. This kind of thing should not be debatable, yet people have been trying to justify "enhanced interrogation techniques".
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 13, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Chad32 - September 13, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 13, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2015 at 11:09 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 13, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 13, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 3:13 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Napoléon - September 14, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Chad32 - September 14, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Exian - September 14, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Bob Kelso - September 14, 2015 at 12:32 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Minimalist - September 14, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by pocaracas - September 14, 2015 at 2:41 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Ashground - September 14, 2015 at 3:13 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Bob Kelso - September 14, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 14, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 14, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by pocaracas - September 14, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by pocaracas - September 14, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by robvalue - September 14, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by brewer - September 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 14, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 14, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Napoléon - September 14, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 14, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 7:37 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 14, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 15, 2015 at 12:41 am

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