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When do the ends justify the means?

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When do the ends justify the means?
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RE: When do the ends justify the means?
September 14, 2015 at 3:44 am
(September 14, 2015 at 3:13 am)Ashground Wrote: This whole debate comes from the fact that we want to hurt certain people who we think deserve it. So we go to clearly hypothetical lengths to justify our abhorrent fantasies.

What if they genuinely know nothing? Would you be happy to be tortured if someone else honestly believed you were the one with important information? Anything is justifiable until it happens to you.

I know myself, and more to the point, my emotional state well enough to have provided an honest answer based on a hypothetical. 

I am not a violent man, but if violence held the key to my children's cage then I could travel that road if given no other recourse. If that suggests to you that I hold "abhorrent fantasies" then you're welcome to make that statement. You'd just be wrong, at least in my case.
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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When do the ends justify the means?

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When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 13, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Chad32 - September 13, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 13, 2015 at 11:05 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2015 at 11:09 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 13, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 13, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 13, 2015 at 11:49 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 3:13 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Napoléon - September 14, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Chad32 - September 14, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Exian - September 14, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Bob Kelso - September 14, 2015 at 12:32 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Minimalist - September 14, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by pocaracas - September 14, 2015 at 2:41 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Ashground - September 14, 2015 at 3:13 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Bob Kelso - September 14, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 14, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 14, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2015 at 4:30 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by pocaracas - September 14, 2015 at 4:47 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by pocaracas - September 14, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by robvalue - September 14, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by brewer - September 14, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by I_am_not_mafia - September 14, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 14, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 14, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Napoléon - September 14, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 14, 2015 at 7:34 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 7:37 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Losty - September 14, 2015 at 7:42 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 14, 2015 at 10:47 pm
RE: When do the ends justify the means? - by Athene - September 15, 2015 at 12:41 am

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