RE: General question about the possibility of objective moral truth
September 14, 2015 at 7:20 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2015 at 7:23 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(September 14, 2015 at 6:17 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 14, 2015 at 5:55 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Oh, by the way, you should be very careful with that "documentary" of yours.
Your "compelling case" is not recent, and has been debunked thoroughly even by Christian researchers.
http://biblicalremains.com/another-broke...-evidence/
Wow! You did a keyword search and found a contrary opinion with lots of scare quotes. I'm amazed! Simply amazed! (douche)
No, douchebag, I looked it up, found that it was a rehash of a debate on the subject that is not new, which I had read, so I went out of my way to find a Christian website for you to read, so you wouldn't think I was just throwing atheist stuff back in your face.
But if that's what I'm going to get for trying to treat you with a modicum of intellectual respect, then you can go fuck yourself.
Douche.
Addendum: If you had even a shred of basic decency and respect, you would have recognized that the point of the article I quoted was a Christian group saying, "Dear fellow Christians, do not use this information as a proof, because it's a bad argument."
That's why the author refers to it as a "broken" arrow. It is not to be fired, because your opponents will recognize it as bunk, and they will laugh at you.
Among atheist (and other forms of skeptic, including honest Christians), warning others of bad arguments that on the surface (or to laymen) sound good but are really not solid arguments, is considered a kindness.
The fact that you decided to call me a douche in return for trying to show you that kindness, with respect and with citation, tells me exactly what kind of person you are.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.