RE: General question about the possibility of objective moral truth
September 15, 2015 at 10:28 am
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2015 at 10:33 am by TheRocketSurgeon.
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(September 15, 2015 at 9:14 am)ChadWooters Wrote: RS, your own words betray you. Referring to historical speculations as 'debunked' show that you have the same attitude towards theories that touch on religion as paranormal claims. If you had said they were wrong or inadequately supported then I would know you gave the theory a fair hearing.
Oh FFS.
I said "debunked" and I meant "debunked". This is the 2007 article I was linked to originally, on the subject, when I first heard about the revised chronology, which Bible Archaeology Online was nice enough to publish on duh interwebz. When I looked up the video (to see what it was even about) and saw that it was just a rehash of Rohl's timeline made into video form, I laughed, because the article had torn the idea of an earlier exodus to shreds. Some excerpts:
..."David Rohl purports to have produced a better correlation between the findings of archaeology and the Bible by revising Egyptian chronology. One is tempted to dismiss Rohl as simply another crackpot and get on with more important issues. Rohl, however, cannot so easily be brushed aside. As opposed to most who attempt to revise ancient history, Rohl has some scholarly training - he has studied Egyptology and ancient history at University College, London. Moreover, the lay public, largely as the result of a three-part video series based on his book, have become enamored with his supposed Biblical correlations.
Rohl describes the current state of affairs in Biblical archaeology as follows:
This statement is, of course, grossly exaggerated and inaccurate, as even a cursory review of the many books on archaeology and the Bible will reveal. By making such a statement, Rohl has set up a straw man which he can now proceed to knock down by means of his new chronology. In actual fact, however, the cure is worse than the sickness, as the new chronology produces no correlations whatsoever! "
"There is not the slightest hint in the archaeological record for this reconstruction."
"The Philistines are scarcely mentioned by Rohl. And for good reason - they utterly destroy his reconstruction. According to the revised chronology, the United Monarchy corresponds to the LB IIA period. The first two kings of the United Monarchy, Saul and David, were very much involved with fighting against the Philistines. But the Philistines did not arrive in Canaan until the reign of Ramesses III at the beginning of the Iron Age (Wood 1991), ca. 800 B.C. by Rohl's reckoning. So we are left with a situation where Saul and David are fighting an enemy who does not appear in the historical or archaeological record until 300 years later!" ... "They completely destroy Rohl's chronology, so he hardly mentions them."
"It is abundantly clear that, from a Palestinian perspective, Rohl's hypothesis is quite unworkable."
[Bold emphases my own.]
So, as I was saying, debunked. And by Christian scholars.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.