(September 16, 2015 at 3:18 pm)Thena323 Wrote:Adam & Eve were not the first people. They were the progenitors of the Jews and Jesus' ancestors. Remember, the fairy tale says that Assyria, Persia, Arabia, and Ethiopia were just down the road from the Garden of Eden.(September 16, 2015 at 10:59 am)Drich Wrote: Which would lead to conclude Heaven and Hell (biblically speaking) is not about who is good and who is not. According to Christ it is all about atonement. One must be perfect to enter into Heaven, and none are.. So that means 'morality' ceases to be our measure of righteousness.(whether we are worthy of Heaven or Hell) If we make it to Heaven we know Our 'righteousness' is not ours. it is the Righteousness of Christ that we adopt through accepting his atonement for us. why Christ? Because He lived a perfect life, and with his shed blood literally bought us a place in Heaven. However if we can not accept the terms of what He has done nor accept Christ as being our savior then according to the bible we will face judgement of our 'good.'I understand that. To me, this is why the concept of Hell is insane. The first man and woman were perfect, but because of their transgressions every person afterward is born wrong, and doomed to suffer an unimaginable torment...unless they accept the gift.
The gift is simply not a gift.
It would be if those who accepted it were allowed admittance into Heaven after death, while those who didn't simply remained dead.
The sentence of eternal pain and suffering for not accepting the gift, turns said gift into an insanely violent threat. It's a shakedown.... a 'protection' racket.
That indicates malevolence, in my opinion.
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