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Poll: What determines if an action is moral or immoral?
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What does morality mean to you?
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RE: What does morality mean to you?
(September 18, 2015 at 9:46 am)robvalue Wrote: I agree with your point about being drunk, and indeed willfully ignorant. If you have knowingly put yourself in a situation where you are impaired but required to make important decisions, then that adds immorality.

What else do you think is missing?

I don't think your approach accurately characterizes what is going on with morality.  Moral behavior has been observed in animals, and so it cannot be based upon advanced reasoning.  (Also, almost every idiot human has a sense of morality, so it is not brilliance that is the source of it.)

See:

http://www.livescience.com/24802-animals...-book.html

http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource...-fairness/


My own take on morality I have explained in the past:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-33164-po...#pid934918

http://atheistforums.org/thread-33164-po...#pid935583

There are more posts in that thread.


(September 18, 2015 at 9:46 am)robvalue Wrote: By "doing the right thing" I mean trying to maximise the wellbeing of other people/animals and reduce unnecessary harm. I should have stated that explicitly.

You are there seeming like you believe that morality is objective.

However, it is still not satisfactory, because what, precisely, is "wellbeing" and what, precisely, is "harm"?  It really just seems like alternate words for saying that doing the right thing means trying to maximize doing what is right and minimizing doing what is wrong.

If there were not already a common sense of morality, I would have no idea what you were writing about.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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Messages In This Thread
What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 16, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Ashground - September 16, 2015 at 4:31 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by ignoramus - September 16, 2015 at 4:36 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by MTL - September 16, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Catholic_Lady - September 16, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 16, 2015 at 5:03 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Aoi Magi - September 16, 2015 at 6:11 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 16, 2015 at 6:17 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Aoi Magi - September 16, 2015 at 7:30 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 16, 2015 at 8:33 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Aoi Magi - September 16, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by MTL - September 16, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Kingpin - September 16, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Catholic_Lady - September 16, 2015 at 9:52 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by paulpablo - September 16, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by houseofcantor - September 16, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Captain Scarlet - September 16, 2015 at 2:22 pm
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 18, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Pyrrho - September 18, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 18, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Pyrrho - September 18, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by robvalue - September 20, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by bennyboy - September 20, 2015 at 6:51 am
RE: What does morality mean to you? - by Grandizer - September 23, 2015 at 6:56 am

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