(September 20, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I think the real problem has finally dawned on me...this isn't a forum for discussing Christianity.
You're right. You're absolutely right. This isn't a forum for discussing Christianity.
Congratulations, Randy, you finally got one right!
This is a forum for atheists to gather, learn about each other, socialize, point out interesting things to one another, joke with one another, and discuss all sorts of topics (the dominant religions of the world being one of those).
It's only your arrogance and self-centeredness that tells you it should be for discussing your religion.
We atheists tend to work toward being open toward people who differ in opinion, and thus we welcome theists here in a way that is not, repeat not, reciprocated by the theists, who almost universally treat us like shit wherever they hold dominant social control. The internet is one of the first times in all of history where we are relatively free to speak our minds openly, aside from private gatherings in homes (ironically akin to Christianity, in its early years). This is our free space, for the first time since the spread of Christianity and its repressions 1700 years ago.
And yet, you invade our sanctum, you abuse our hospitality, and then you try to play the victim card when we don't welcome your self-righteous OneTrueFaith™ proselytization with open arms.
This is our house. Polite guests are welcome, regardless of their personal opinions. But the moment you start to tread on us, the moment you start to think you are superior to us, or need not respect us, you can expect a shitstorm of hostile rhetoric coming back your way. And you will deserve every fleck of it.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
