(September 21, 2015 at 3:19 am)robvalue Wrote:That's ok if you don't know what objective morality is. I believe it God's Name/face/light in creation and it's absolute existence is God himself. But I'm not assuming these things to be true for the argument or else it would be circular.(September 9, 2015 at 12:01 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I nearly forgot about this thread.I don't particularly understand what this is saying, but you seem to just announce "objective morality exists" halfway through.
Here's another argument:
God cannot decide what objective morality is, or else it would be arbitrary.
Objective morality thus cannot be created by God.
If God cannot create objective morality and decide what is, then neither can evolution, as God can create evolution.
Objective morality exists.
Thus objective morality is eternal.
Objective morality takes a perception to see.
Thus an eternal being who perceives objective morality always existed.
I don't know what objective morality is supposed to be, in what way it "exists", or why it requires anything to perceive it. You seem to be saying objectively morality is like some law of the universe like gravity.
Like I said before, if you believe one subjective view of a certain moral issue is superior to another morally and ethically, then you believe in objective morality. No if you believe there is any goodness in any action that is real and genuine, you believe in objective morality.
Objective morality doesn't have to mean "the most perfect act to do in a moment", just that in a moment, an action is truly good given the intention and perception of the individual.
"This perception" and "hearing" is that of a genuine true force, a true power, in the soul, that is from the light of God.