(September 21, 2015 at 1:03 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(September 20, 2015 at 10:56 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I think the real problem has finally dawned on me...this isn't a forum for discussing Christianity.
You're right. You're absolutely right. This isn't a forum for discussing Christianity.
Congratulations, Randy, you finally got one right!
This is a forum for atheists to gather, learn about each other, socialize, point out interesting things to one another, joke with one another, and discuss all sorts of topics (the dominant religions of the world being one of those).
It's only your arrogance and self-centeredness that tells you it should be for discussing your religion.
We atheists tend to work toward being open toward people who differ in opinion, and thus we welcome theists here in a way that is not, repeat not, reciprocated by the theists, who almost universally treat us like shit wherever they hold dominant social control. The internet is one of the first times in all of history where we are relatively free to speak our minds openly, aside from private gatherings in homes (ironically akin to Christianity, in its early years). This is our free space, for the first time since the spread of Christianity and its repressions 1700 years ago.
And yet, you invade our sanctum, you abuse our hospitality, and then you try to play the victim card when we don't welcome your self-righteous OneTrueFaith proselytization with open arms.
This is our house. Polite guests are welcome, regardless of their personal opinions. But the moment you start to tread on us, the moment you start to think you are superior to us, or need not respect us, you can expect a shitstorm of hostile rhetoric coming back your way. And you will deserve every fleck of it.
You can stuff that "victim card" schtick where the sun don't shine, dude. That's not the point of my OP.
Nor am I some sunny little evangelical who expects you all to say the sinner's prayer with me because it's all just so obvious that Christianity is true. No, I expect some hard-nosed give-and-take, and I was hoping for some honest discussion of the issues. Atheism has some strong arguments, and I have to face them. But theism has some good arguments, too...despite what you may have heard from the low-information atheists in this forum.
But forgive me if I've invaded one (and only one, btw) subforum of YOUR HOUSE (the idea of which contradicts what others have said about this being a public forum) which was set up ostensibly for the purpose of discussing Christianity and then ACTUALLY ATTEMPTING to discuss Christianity.
Oh, I see where I went wrong...this subforum is where atheists gather to mock Christianity...not to discuss it.
Perhaps the sign on the door needs to be changed to reflect what Tiberius, Cthulhu Dreaming and others really envision.