(November 12, 2010 at 9:47 am)Skipper Wrote: Seeing as the only reason we as humans started living outside of the garden was due to "Adams original sin" was it's gods original plan that they would eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil or did he honestly not know that they would dis obey him and listen to the talking snake?
It just seems that as an all knowing being he would of known they would listen to the snake he put there and eat from the tree.
Obviously I don't believe in a Christian god or the story of Eden, however it just shows another example of god "tricking" people and he himself creating the sin and the reasons we are punished for it. Of course the religious here will say it's all a test and there cant be good without evil and it's all part of learning from our mistakes so we can except god blah blah blah. But I thought it might be worth pointing out yet another ridiculous part of their book.
Also, where is the garden now? Did it fall into dis repair? Did Cherubim just forget to prune the rose bushes? Was god lazy with his lovely garden and should he have got Alan Titchmarsh on the job?
Skipper it's not a snake .... it's now a legless serpant what ever that looks like. Yes God did know that Adam would sin and bring into existance many terrible things. However God did not create sin satan did not create sin, he did allow it to manifest itself in him when he became jealous of God and rebelled against Him. So sin existed before Adam brought it into this world but it never was a creation. Sin is being unlike God in your nature, there is no way that God could have created sin because God's nature never changes.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
