(September 22, 2015 at 6:46 am)MysticKnight Wrote:Okay you wonna defeat weak atheism. Prove right here that Mohammad actually had Gabriel appear inbthat cave. Prove to me that a all knowing being decided to communicate with us by appearing to one illiterate to man and making him memorize the message. That to me sounds like a fantastical bullshit story. But you want me to even consider taking the Quran seriously you have to prove that independently first. As in I don't give a shit want the Quran says of its own truth.(September 22, 2015 at 3:38 am)robvalue Wrote: Mystic:
I hope your book works out well. I want to point out however that weak atheism cannot be "wrong". It is the default state of not feeling strongly enough to believe in God, nor strongly enough to rule it out as a possibility. It makes no claims, so it cannot be wrong.
If you are talking against strong atheism, the active belief that there is no God, that is a different matter to which I think you should be explicit about.
What I will be showing regarding Atheism (weak version), is to show is that we all been given knowledge of God, his oneness, his holy names, and there is many proofs that we do have this knowledge even if we convince ourselves we don't, and the Quran reminds us of knowledge with this regard that we take for granted and act upon that is not possible without acknowledging his existence and lordship and active role in the universe inwardly, even if we don't acknowledge it outwardly. An example of this is ranks we are given, blessings, actions we inherit, and what Quran describes to be their reality in the metaphysical world, and everyone believes in this type of reality and takes it for granted when interacting with humans, even Atheists, but sort of ignore it and don't think about it.
I will be dealing with these verses and it's link to Suratal Fatiha (the 7 counter parts).
A lot of people think Quran has nothing to say regarding Atheism. I've heard this from many Muslims specially the Salafis. But it's because this of the stuff dark forces (I hope I turned you on Losty) don't want us to see as well.
There is verses like "to him ascend the good word, and righteous action lifts it" that has not been elaborated about with respect to Suratal Fatiha the 7 counter parts of the Quran. Quran addresses all differences, including Atheism.
I'm not saying Atheists will all say "O wow, this is true" nor Christians nor Sunnis, but I hope it will guide some people when I write the elaboration of Quran with respect to Suratal Fatiha, then Suratal Fatiha being called the 7 counter parts, it will be seen why it's called that, which maybe seen as a miracle in the heart or not, I'm not sure, it's up to the capacity of people to appreciate. It seems like a miracle to me.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.