This is a topic branched off from Ephrium's original (http://atheistforums.org/thread-722.html) in which he failed to argue that creators could be less complex than the things they created. His major failing point was the fact that he could not come up with a valid way of determining complexity.
One example of a more complex "creation" was a robot that has
I disagree with this, since the human body can regenerate tissue, and is wired in a much more complex way than the robot. The human also has an active conscience and the ability to come up with new ideas, which the robot cannot. So should complexity be measured by how powerful the creation is, or how intricate the design is?
It should also be noted that all robots need some human input, whether to start or to program them, or to interact with them. Robots cannot simply function on their own and do whatever they want, so where do we end the "creator/creation" relationship? Does a creation that needs a creator to help it or start it really make it more complex?
Discuss.
One example of a more complex "creation" was a robot that has
Quote:more 'body parts', which does everything better than humans, which can even do certain aspects humans cannot...(Such as flying, night vision, hibernation and natural immortality)
I disagree with this, since the human body can regenerate tissue, and is wired in a much more complex way than the robot. The human also has an active conscience and the ability to come up with new ideas, which the robot cannot. So should complexity be measured by how powerful the creation is, or how intricate the design is?
It should also be noted that all robots need some human input, whether to start or to program them, or to interact with them. Robots cannot simply function on their own and do whatever they want, so where do we end the "creator/creation" relationship? Does a creation that needs a creator to help it or start it really make it more complex?
Discuss.
