(September 23, 2015 at 9:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Electrons push back, that's just what we observe.Okay, you are focusing on the first part of this statement. But I'm with the second part.
I'm not sure what electrons pushing back has to do with this discussion. You seem to have the impression that when I take the idealistic position that I'm saying everything is a dream and nothing's real. But this isn't my argument, nor do I believe it. Fine. Electrons push back, and we observe them, and neither one of us has a problem with that. So. . . ?
Quote:Logic is an unyielding system, learn the damned rules. Science is a very specific endeavor - learn what it actually says.I'm ready to learn, and I will bow down to your superior knowledge. What is a QM particle, really, and what is the foundation for its existence, according to science? I bet you're going to tell me about a super well-defined and totally unambiguous material system upon which QM particles and everything else supervene, and I will be soooo embarrassed.
