(September 25, 2015 at 3:21 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: they were honest enough to admit that the Five Ways were not proof but supposition with which they simply felt comfortable assuming. When it's presented as "you can't refute this!", right off the bat, it tells me that you're not really willing to have the same sort of respectful conversation about it, acknowledging the strengths and weaknesses of the argument, but have already made up your mind in a way that is impervious to reasoning... so why reason with you?Your friends did not find the 5W as compelling as me, the late Mortimer J. Adler, Edward Fesser and many others believe(d). You mistake my great confidence in the strength of an argument with ideological commitment. I'm open being proven wrong, but it seems that right now everyone is more concerned about my personality. In the OP robvalue claimed that he would reveal the logical fallacies of any ontological god claim. So my counter challenge of in your words "you can't refute this!" was entirely justified.
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