(September 30, 2015 at 9:56 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I also made this same point. PT is demonstrating the problem with making value judgments from the perspective of ontological naturalism. Professing 'secular' values is all well and good so long as secularists recognize that they acknowledge that those values are really just cultural norms.In contrast to this, Judeo-Christian values are not culture specific because they point back to Nature and Nature's God.
I haven't been following this thread, but here is what I take away from this statement. Secular values are fine as long as secularists acknowledge they arise simply from cultural norms(which we do, by the way), but I'm going to go on pretending that my values that are actually derived from cultural norms are derived from an invisible and undetectable entity that has knowledge beyond humanity's capability, thereby making my values superior by default.
How narcissistic do you have to be to approach your own and others' values in such a manner?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell