(October 1, 2015 at 6:27 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(October 1, 2015 at 9:03 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: "Support group" makes it sound like we're alcoholics! Heh.
Yes, it's a community for us. If you call this a "support group", then so are your church services and socials.
Of course. This is not a problem for believers. We know we need community.
Quote:Please watch the "eyewitness experiment" video, and understand what we're actually talking about, here. Please?
Also, it's kind of stupid of you to say that we agree with each other; we fight over all kinds of issues, almost constantly.
Not on the central issue that gave the forum its name, rocket.
But now I've been accused of being intentionally dishonest and stupid by you in one day. The tone of our dialogue has definitely changed...
I agree it has changed. You have asserted that atheists have no basis for morality, for community, and that we disregard real evidence despite our adoration of the Scientific Method.
But yeah, I'm the one being a dick.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
