We can be certain of NO resurrection - A Response

[Randy Carson]

Where? Okay, a couple of examples:

Of course. This is not a problem for believers. We know we need community. We are one body.

This implies that we cannot or should not have community, without it being "a problem", but that it's not a problem for Christians because you're "one community", which is demonstrably untrue... and which was recently demonstrated for us when another Christian's argument was mistaken for one of ours.

I think you're looking for a bone to pick where no fight is intended.

But as for Christianity being "one community" let me ask this: Is the Church the Body of Christ? And if so, how many bodies does Jesus have?

Sure, there are doctrinal differences that divide us, sadly, but ALL Christians are members of the one body, the Catholic Church, whether they know it, like it or understand it.

There is only one Church, one body of Christ, and that Church is known by the name that it coined for itself before the end of the first century: The Catholic Church.

The reason the connection between atheism and Stalin or Pol Pot is so obvious is because what they did is a natural result of what they believed.

Human life is of no real value if natural selection means that only the strong survive or that less desirable elements of our society - like the Jews, the Poles, the Blacks, the mentally handicapped, etc. (cf. Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood) - should be eliminated.

And despite the attempts to find a Christian parallel from some dusty period of history, there simply aren't isn't anything like the murder committed under atheist communist regimes in the supposedly enlightened modern era.

So much for mankind evolving into a better and better version of itself.

Your entire argument was predisposed to the conclusion that we have no basis for morality as atheists.

Ah. I had forgotten what was for me a throw-away post in another thread. I KNEW I had not been barking up that tree with you as thread of my own.

So, I stand corrected.

And I don't think I've ever seen anyone misstate one of your Christian beliefs/positions, other than quibbles over wording. We evaluate evidence as it comes to us-- not without bias, a thing of which no one is totally free, but with an eye to eliminating that bias as much as possible. We hold no conclusions as automatically true, and often change our minds, which is part of why we argue with one another so often and so fiercely. When someone (including one of us) posts something that is demonstrably untrue, we call them on it. If they persist in the face of better evidence, or continue to rely on debunked evidence, we're likely to call them a moron.

Then you haven't been paying attention to brakeman and rhondavous - their misunderstandings of Christianity is truly breathtaking given how vehemently they argue against they they so clearly do not know.