RE: Apologetics open challenge
October 2, 2015 at 12:13 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 12:15 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(October 1, 2015 at 10:50 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(October 1, 2015 at 8:09 pm)EvidenceVersusFaith Wrote: Indeed morality is founded upon empathy. And empathy evolved.
A house of cards on a shaky table in the wind. Tell me again why you trust empathy over disgust or fear?
You know, Chad, I actually agree with you. I don't trust it. But empathy is what we (except sociopaths) naturally feel. All the rest has to be "carefully taught". Religion, unfortunately, all too often serves not as a boost to our empathy, but as a boost to tribalism and xenophobia. It's certainly not the only reason that hate and fear override our natural empathy, but it's a common one.
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
