(October 1, 2015 at 8:07 am)Randy Carson Wrote: NO ONE witnessed the resurrection. But MANY people saw the risen Jesus...and Paul was one of them as he testifies.
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What does "raised" mean, Daniel?
If Jesus was still in the tomb, how did he appear to all those people mentioned in 1 Cor 15?
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Hearsay...now there is a word loaded with negative connotations. Paul and Luke traveled together for many years. Luke had set through MANY of Paul's sermons...he knew what Paul taught publicly and what he said privately as they walked along the dusty roads of the middle east on their missionary journeys. So, when Luke says that Paul met Jesus, he knew what he was talking about.
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Mark writes, "He is risen" in Mark 16:6. Mark knew of the resurrection.
As for James, why do you suppose that the skeptical brother of Jesus was converted after Jesus' death to the degree that he became the leader of the Church in Jerusalem and a martyr for his faith?
Okay, again I'm sorry you can't reply here, but I will respond to your questions.
1. "Many people saw the risen Jesus" - Matt 28:17 some saw "him" and doubted. Even by Matthew's own admission some saw the supposed risen Jesus and said "no that isn't him".
2. Read Genesis for yourself. It means God takes them up (without them dying on Earth). The same context is understood by Mark - yes in this account Jesus dies a physical death before being rased, but afterward God raises him to the heavenly realm (not to the earthly realm).
3. 1 Cor 15 is a creed. Nowhere outside of it does Paul ever say he met the risen Jesus. The Creed itself doesn't mention a resurrected Jesus just appearances (visions) of Jesus.
4. Luke (or one of his associates) wrote Luke-Acts. But we do not know that Paul ever discussed with him his conversion experience. It is likely that Luke is relying on some other account here. Acts was written in 61 AD at the earliest - he probably couldn't contact Paul at the time who was under house arrest to confirm the details he's been told of his conversion.
5. Genesis says multiple people were raised - and none of them had a physical bodily resurrection on Earth or appeared on Earth after being raised.
6. We don't know that he was sceptical. We don't know why he was converted. We don't know when he was converted. There are endless possibilities Randy.
Interesting that you, a Catholic, recognise him and not Peter as the first leader of the church.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
