RE: Is the Atheism/Theism belief/disbelief a false dichotomy? are there other options?
October 2, 2015 at 7:35 am
(October 2, 2015 at 5:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Back to knowing: I'm not quite sure what you mean here. I was saying we can each individually claim to "know" things, about ourselves or the world around us. That in no way makes them true, it's simply a claim. It's actually worthless to anyone but ourselves, and if we don't question what we think we know regularly, it's dangerous even to ourself. The way we as a species try and develop real knowledge is to pool what we think we know, and try and provide evidence. Those things that people can agree has enough evidence, and can be modelled in a satisfactory way, we can tentatively consider knowledge. Those things that have not been evidenced, or cannot even be tested, cannot be considered knowledge.
Some mad person can "know" I'm a demon. They can be 100% sure. That has no impact on whether I'm a demon, or if there is even such a thing as a demon. For it to become meaningful knowledge, we'd have to define demon, and then find a realiable way of testing to see who is and isn't.
I get what you are saying, and for the record, we are in agreement. All that I was questioning was, do you mean that we can have "certain" experience internally (direct experience) which we call knowledge, and then the collective, testable, falsifiable pool of information in the outside world, whilst also internally experienced, but existing not within ourselves, that we also call "knowledge".
Perhaps better put, a knowledge continuum, both derived from direct experience, but one certain (our direct experience itself) and one uncertain (our testable, falsifiable, external world).
Don't mind me, I'm just rambling, lol.
Plato had defined Man as an animal, biped and featherless, and was applauded. Diogenes plucked a fowl and brought it into the lecture room with the words,
"Behold Plato's man!"