Can you be an atheist and an I.D. advocate together?

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You're trying to rationalize your emotional conclusions. It's perfectly normal for theists.

I've never heard a definition of god that can be distinguished from nothing at all. So for all practical purposes, until this changes, god is nothing. Putting "made the universe" on his CV is premature when his existence has not been established.

The reason it can't be distinguished from nothing is that it has to be carefully defined to be outside the realm of science. If it wasn't, it could be proved wrong and that would be that. It's the same with all "supernatural" stuff, it just gets defined in a special way to keep it safe from investigation. But all that's really happening is imaginary causes with no evidence whatsoever.

It makes some people happy. Some people can't handle just saying "I don't know where the universe came from, or if it indeed came from anywhere". They have to have an answer, even if it's a made up one. They can't handle saying, "I make my own purpose" or "I will die one day". There has to be a story behind it all, an external purpose for some reason (I don't know what the fuck purpose god gives to anything) and pretend extra life after death.