(October 8, 2015 at 12:16 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 12:08 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Oh and by the way, the verse you're quoting is in Acts chapter 16... where it also says that if he believes, his household will also be saved. So does that mean I'm saved because my wife is a Believer? (She is.)
no the messaged was preached to the jailer and his household\
belief is still necessary for salvation
I know, they all believed and were baptized. I was just yankin' your chain. At least you're listening. I wasn't sure, for a moment...
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
