(October 8, 2015 at 1:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(October 8, 2015 at 12:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There are a lot of Christians out there who think Catholics are heathens and are going to Hell lol, so I definitely know what it's like. And of course, Muslims think everyone who is not Muslim is going to Hell too, so that includes me. I don't care at all about the Muslims thinking this, but when other Christians think it, it does upset me, because I feel as Christians we should be united for Christ... not fighting against each other over petty differences. Either way, it's just simplistic to think that God is so limited that everyone who is not of a religion goes to Hell, even if they live a life of virtue and self giving love. God is so much greater than to just discount people for not being of X religion, imho. It's whats in the heart that matters most.
^With that being said though, I'm 99.9% sure this particular person is a poe lol. And I'm starting to kind of enjoy it.
I think I read Poe's Law differently than most of y'all.
To me it simply says that religious crazies are so crazy that you can't tell if they're insane or faking it.
You guys seem to be using it as, "well then they must be faking it", equating a Poe to a Troll. They are different things, to me.
Because I come from a religious-insanity version of Christianity, in my past, and myself would have said all the things these Poes say, I use "Poe" to describe someone as "what you say is so crazy that I doubt a faker could pull it off, but if you are a faker, you're amazing at it".
Much of their language is highly specific to evangelical circles, a sort of secret language like a shibboleth, by which members of the "in-group" can recognize one another. Such phrases as, for instance, "on fire for the Lord", and "born again" are specific to certain denominations, even though of course the phrase "born again" is in the Bible. It's a matter of what secret bits of esoteric language are chosen for employment within that culture, and so it's very hard for a faker to Poe in a way that's consistent unless he comes recently from a background of evangelical radicalism, and it strikes me as unlikely that such a person would think to themselves, "Well, I'm not a Christian now, so let's go torment some atheists!"
On the other hand, bored teenagers or fired-up Christian college students who are actually Christians might think that they can "score points for Jesus" simply by baiting us, and might pretend to be more evangelicrazy than they are, simply to "drive" us. To me, that's a troll, someone who's just here to harass, not to discuss. And trolls are rightly banned.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.