(October 10, 2015 at 10:12 am)Rhythm Wrote:(October 9, 2015 at 9:22 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: It doesn't matter how God views your rejection. It doesn't effect Him whatsoever. I didn't lay my sins on Jesus. I had no part in the matter. It was all Him. He chose to come and die for my sins. He volunteered to do it, and I respect God for that.What you're describing sounds like insurance fraud to me. The husband offs himself in some clever way /w the wife as the beneficiary. Nevertheless, I didn't ask you whether you respected gods choice. Your choices and gods choices aren't the same. You aren't the husband, in the story above, you're the wife. Im not asking you about the husbands decisions, I'm asking you about the wife's. If you knowingly benefit from a terrible deed, do you share complicity?
In the eyes of -our- laws, -our- ethics....you certainly do. The wife above, knowing that the husband committed suicide and withholding that information has made herself accomplice to fraud. Perhaps it -was- noble for the husband to commit suicide, perhaps it was difficult. It is not noble, nor is it difficult, for the wife to cash the check. Do you take the money, and pick a corpses pocket?
I like your analogy... but I would note that, in this particular case, the "husband" didn't even commit suicide, just pretended to be dead for three days in order to get the insurance payment (since Jesus knew he was a god and couldn't really die), then left town so the wife could benefit.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
