(October 12, 2015 at 2:09 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:(October 12, 2015 at 2:05 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And yet naturalists attempt to explain away intentionally at every turn I. e. As. A causally inert illusion of physical brain processes.
Agreed Chad. Naturalism does not include intentionality and has no room for it. Naturalism has no meaning or purpose, just blind unguided processes with no regard. "Meaning" and "purpose" are human constructs derived from processes in the brain (ironically that which is a consequence of said Naturalism) and as you point out, they must be illusory constructs.
QFT!
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
