RE: Proof Mind is Fundamental and Matter Doesn't Exist
October 13, 2015 at 1:06 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 1:30 am by bennyboy.)
(October 13, 2015 at 12:17 am)Rhythm Wrote: -this, isn't why. (are they all mental, and what does it mean for them to be mental, btw?)It means they are experiences. It means they are qualia.
Quote:-nor is this. (a requirement of complete knowledge is -entirely- unreasonable)Maybe not, but when of two competing positions, one requires no assertions about the nature of mind, and the other does, then the latter needs to sufficiently prove the necessity of fighting with Occam's Razor. Your view adds nothing to my world view that can't be subsumed by an idealistic world view, but it adds one more thing we have to pretend we know about in arriving at conclusions about reality.
Quote:Wait..what....? What black box......what outside? Those are boundary conditions, and even a reference to a relative location.....stolen concepts. We have some notion as to why that might be difficult (escaping the box) in a material world, /w a material mind - as you've just referenced, as you've just assumed the truth of a material limitation......"Black box" is just a metaphor for the unknowable. Don't get to excited by its literal meaning-- though what do I expect from a staunch materialist?
Quote: Now...for shits and giggles...can you tell me why an idea self made of idea stuff can't get out of an idea box? What's preventing that?No, the box is still just a metaphor for the unknowable. One knows what one experiences, and the rest constitute gradations of belief, or at best contextual knowledge.