(October 14, 2015 at 8:29 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Since both Rythym and Rocket think sieves are a sufficient analogy, then I guess I must understand how either of you apply it. If I wanted to sort small objects I suppose I could design a seive tailored to what features for which I wanted to sort, round or otherwise.
I am actually quite comfortable with that analogy. I've never had an issue with the idea, commonly held by evolutionary biologists who also happen to be Christians, that this world's life forms are the way they are because the Creator made the world in a way that would produce such myriad species by random chance based on a tailored (teleology) set of parameters (the sieve).
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
