(December 6, 2010 at 5:46 am)Chuck Wrote:(December 5, 2010 at 11:15 pm)ib.me.ub Wrote: The ultimate welfare of the human race depends on a healthy Planet. A Planet should be nutured, not looked upon soley as a resource. A mutual co-existence.
It is only wrong in the sense that it makes no sense to kill ourselves.
You say you want to make humans important, would it not be better that humans survive, thus one day becoming important in a wider context.
Taking the long view, the ultimate welfare of human race actually depends on our getting off this planet. At the present we need this planet. But the survival of humans will eventually entail our leaving this planet behind. Ultimately our industrial capacity will need to be orders of magnitude larger then now, and we will need to extract a orders of magnitude more resource from our planet then we have hitherto, to facilitate our departure. So in the short run we might take care not to burn down our own house. But in the long run we have no business nurturing the planet in any way that does not facilitate our extracting the resources we need to make our emigration possible.
Your long view implies that humanity can do without the concept of sustainability, the idea of living within our means. And I think that is a very dangerous idea, one, in fact, that I believe has gotten us in the situation we are at the present. My opinion is that we have no business whatsoever conducting ourselves in anything other than a sustainable fashion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnFMrNdj1yY
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero