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What would you consider to be evidence for God?
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
(October 14, 2015 at 8:17 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(October 14, 2015 at 12:06 am)snowtracks Wrote: ‘Unfalsifiability’ was not a problem for Antony Flew in his book “There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew. God’s reveals Himself in: The Book of Nature, and The Book of written Revelation. The information is out there, you just need to let it in.


Sorry, but Flew did not believe in any god described in religious texts, like the Bible. 

The most he was convinced of, is a deist god. Nothing more.

There is a good deal of controversy over Flew's mental state when the conversion took place.  See, for example:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightath...tony-flew/

I think this article gets to a more important point to consider:

Quote:And the reasoning by which he arrived at his certainty that God does not exist was never cancelled or reversed by the sloppy arguments of his senility.

And:

Quote:Dr Richard Carrier tried to ascertain from Professor Flew himself whether he had really “found God”. Carrier’s detailed account (no longer to be found on the internet – we wonder why) of how Flew claimed he was, but then again was not, converted to belief in a creator-God when certain scientific facts were brought to his attention, makes the whole sorry story plain. Carrier records that the philosopher admitted to finding the subject “too hard” to deal with; that he failed to remember anything about There is a God; that he repeatedly contradicted himself.

http://theatheistconservative.com/tag/th...lzheimers/

The important point is not whether he was senile or not.  The important point is, his arguments for god are simply inadequate.  That is the takeaway for this, regardless of whether he was being manipulated or not.


We all know that there are theists in the world.  That fact makes no difference for whether anyone ought to believe in a god or not.  It is reasoning and evidence that matter, not who believes what.

Anyone who reasons thusly:

This person [insert any name you want] believes in god.
Therefore, everyone should believe in god.

is a moron who reasons fallaciously.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Athene - September 7, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Athene - September 7, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Pyrrho - September 8, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Athene - September 8, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Pyrrho - September 10, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Pyrrho - October 14, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by IATIA - November 28, 2015 at 11:45 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Heat - November 30, 2015 at 9:20 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by IATIA - December 12, 2015 at 12:44 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by deleteduser12345 - April 1, 2016 at 8:48 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by deleteduser12345 - April 14, 2016 at 9:14 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by deleteduser12345 - July 31, 2016 at 4:09 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Cato - November 2, 2016 at 11:57 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Tonus - November 27, 2016 at 10:38 pm
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Tonus - December 15, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God? - by Tonus - December 27, 2016 at 12:14 am

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