(October 18, 2015 at 7:43 pm)Blondie Wrote: If it could be done the way that creationists want it done, then scientists would have indisputable evidence. I know theories take time to prove or be dismissed for sheer lack of scientific evidence like the germ theory which was proven to be true through the development of the microscope.
First of all: theories are already true. Theories are explanatory frameworks composed of a series of different facts; a theory is already as true as we can make it. Does that mean no theory is ever false? No. But you are vastly understating the importance of theories by phrasing them neither true or false yet.
Secondly: creationists don't want evidence for evolution. They want evolution to be false, because they mistakenly think that this will serve as confirmation of their specific brand of biblical creation. That's why they don't bother actually doing any research, they just say the things that you have: oh, we don't have any missing links! Oh, it's just a theory! Let me be clear: it's not possible to argue against evolution both knowledgeably and honestly. If you want to argue against evolution honestly then you need to know nothing about it, and if you want to have comprehensive knowledge of evolution then it's impossible to honestly deny it. Evolution has over a hundred years of scientific evidence supporting it across multiple fields and disciplines; there's no longer any legitimate reason to deny that it happens.
Those that do are either lying or ignorant, for ideological rather than logical reasons.
Quote:I thought this was interesting. What is your take on this?
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary...faq.php#f2
Misconceptions about evolution and religionBack to top
- MISCONCEPTION: Evolution and religion are incompatible.
CORRECTION: Because of some individuals and groups stridently declaring their beliefs, it's easy to get the impression that science (which includes evolution) and religion are at war; however, the idea that one always has to choose between science and religion is incorrect. People of many different faiths and levels of scientific expertise see no contradiction at all between science and religion. For many of these people, science and religion simply deal with different realms. Science deals with natural causes for natural phenomena, while religion deals with beliefs that are beyond the natural world.
Of course, some religious beliefs explicitly contradict science (e.g., the belief that the world and all life on it was created in six literal days does conflict with evolutionary theory); however, most religious groups have no conflict with the theory of evolution or other scientific findings. In fact, many religious people, including theologians, feel that a deeper understanding of nature actually enriches their faith. Moreover, in the scientific community there are thousands of scientists who are devoutly religious and also accept evolution. For concise statements from many religious organizations regarding evolution, see Voices for Evolution on the NCSE website. To learn more about the relationship between science and religion, visit the Understanding Science website.
The thing that makes science and religion incompatible is the complete lack of evidence for religion. Evolution means that we no longer need magic to explain the diversity of life on this planet, but of course it's not directly contradictory to the ideas of religion, because religion's ideas are inherently malleable. The only reason religion has survived the scientific revolution at all was that it can change to fit all of the things it has been proven wrong about, and that adherents of theism are willing to forget all the times they were wrong and still insist that they're right. The Berkeley page is correct, but it misses the point.
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