(October 19, 2015 at 10:55 am)Blondie Wrote:(October 19, 2015 at 10:24 am)Esquilax Wrote: First of all: theories are already true. Theories are explanatory frameworks composed of a series of different facts; a theory is already as true as we can make it. Does that mean no theory is ever false? No. But you are vastly understating the importance of theories by phrasing them neither true or false yet.
Secondly: creationists don't want evidence for evolution. They want evolution to be false, because they mistakenly think that this will serve as confirmation of their specific brand of biblical creation. That's why they don't bother actually doing any research, they just say the things that you have: oh, we don't have any missing links! Oh, it's just a theory! Let me be clear: it's not possible to argue against evolution both knowledgeably and honestly. If you want to argue against evolution honestly then you need to know nothing about it, and if you want to have comprehensive knowledge of evolution then it's impossible to honestly deny it. Evolution has over a hundred years of scientific evidence supporting it across multiple fields and disciplines; there's no longer any legitimate reason to deny that it happens.
Those that do are either lying or ignorant, for ideological rather than logical reasons.
The thing that makes science and religion incompatible is the complete lack of evidence for religion. Evolution means that we no longer need magic to explain the diversity of life on this planet, but of course it's not directly contradictory to the ideas of religion, because religion's ideas are inherently malleable. The only reason religion has survived the scientific revolution at all was that it can change to fit all of the things it has been proven wrong about, and that adherents of theism are willing to forget all the times they were wrong and still insist that they're right. The Berkeley page is correct, but it misses the point.
I want the plain and simple truth period. Just like many of you, I want to make the decision for myself and not believe something because scientists tell me to or creationists tell me to.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"