(October 20, 2015 at 3:35 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:(October 16, 2015 at 8:28 pm)IATIA Wrote: One would think that any god would have no trouble convincing one of it's existence. The fact that it has failed to do so means either it does not exist or it does not care.
I'm not so sure. There have been countless personal accounts of God being revealed to people in such that the one person believes but others may call that person crazy. If you walked in to a room at work and a being appeared to you claiming to be God, floating there angelically and knew things about you no one else did, would you believe? How do you know the room hadn't been filled with hallucinogenic gas?
I am sure that if there were a god, it would be able to discern just exactly what one needed to convince them. However, the real problem is that these so called gods that want all this worship, have neglected to procure it or these gods are just so powerless that they are not worth worship, ergo the begging and threats to achieve the end result.
Basically, the theist response to this is that we have to believe first then be shown and that is simply a self fulfilling delusion. If one truly believes then anything is proof, regardless of facts, evidence and logic. Any god would know this and I think it highly petty of them to expect that from me. If god created me, then god knows that i will not believe without logical proof.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy